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The 6400 Zone is created to help you gain access to useful software updates and great shareware programs that add functionality to your system. It is also a one stop road map to other informative sites for answering your questions. Most of the info here is geared towards the 6400, but it is useful for all PCI Performa models and even the 6500 and all-in-one Macs based on the same. It's even useful to other MAC systems. I will be referring to my 6400/200 clocked to 220Mhz as just 6400/220, OK.

I will keep it updated as often as I can but I don't have much free time to work on it, so I suggest you check back at least once a week. That should be sufficient. If you don't see something you would like to see here or have your own software / web site that would benefit the MAC community, please write to me at TMK12v@aol.com and I will check it out.

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Just Updated 8/14/1999

Newer drops prices on L2 G3 upgrades: Here is a list of their new pricing. They also combined the L2 G3 products for the 4400 family and 6400/6500 families like Sonnet did so the same upgrade works on both types. This makes it easier for them to manufacture and keep less inventory.

Newer G3 driver update page: Here is a link to Newers page with all the latest drivers. I don't think they have updated their L2 G3 driver let but if you have one then go check it out just incase they did.

More Newer G3 info from Zach: I asked Zach about the heatsink being on the other side facing the PCi cards and if it would be a problem. Here is his reply. Thanks

Question on using LibMoto with Newers L2 G3: David sent me a clipping from Newers FAQ on using LibMoto with their G3's.

That is interesting. Actually it is true and not true depending on what system you have.

I have heard that Apples prefessional line of Macs, namely the G3's and 604e's, use an updated version of Apples math library that is incorporated in OS 8.1 and up. It is better then what LibMoto does for FPU.

Now the 6400 has its math library in the ROM and for some reason (which only Apple knows) cannot use the latest version in OS 8.1 so LibMoto would be better for FPU.

Now it gets even stickier. Motorola has determined that LibMoto clashes with the Geomodem which just about every 6400 came with. I never had the problem but many other people have.

Sonnet used to make LibMoto part of their default install but many people disabled it to get better stability out of their G3 upgrade. Now you have to do a custom install to get it.

Basically some people worship it and others say its just voodoo and doesn't make any system math improvments other than in bench mark apps and then others say it is a mess and ruines stability.

I say just don't use it. If your G3 installer places it in your system folder then remove it. The G3 will give you plenty of speed with or without it. I used to use it all the time and frankly I never noticed a speed increase and I never had any stability issues so I removed it.

Another satisfied Vimage L2 G3 user: Mike wrote to tell me how much he enjoys his new found speed :) Thanks Mike.

He mentions renaming the Vpower extension with a space because SpeedDoubler will boot before the Vpower extension if you do not do this and sometimes it may conflict. I had this issue once or twice but reinstalling SpeedDoubler fixed it. Its just a luck of the draw if you'll have this problem or not?

Professional Audio recording on the 6400: For those of you in the field of Audio Recording and are having trouble you can write to Egan who sent me some wonderfull info on Audio recording on a G3 accelerated 6400. Please try to limit your questions to Audio issues only as like most of us he is a pretty busy guy. Thanks Egan.

More info on the Sound issue with Sonnets G3: Jeff was having stuttering issues and other problems with his Sonnet G3 accelerated 6400 and finally found the problem on his system.

Although I doubt this is the cause on most other peoples 6400's, it is something to consider. Jeff later wrote to let me know that the Apple Platinum Sounds in the Appearance Conrol Panel was causing the random crashes for him. I have this info posted on my OS 8.5 info page and interestingly it was sent to me by another Jeff :)

Another G3 accelerated 6400 that refuses to stay G3 accelerated after a bad crash!: Steve was a happy camper until he had a serious crash and now his Sonnet G3 refuses to work. Did it fry? Please email any suggestions you may have. Thanks. I have had only one other person write to me with similar issues but his is with both Vimages and Sonnets G3's!

Before I could get this page posted I got a reply from Steve saying he got a new card and all is well. Cool!

Egan sends a warning on using powered speakers connected to the HeadPhone jack: I had told Egan I was using a set of powered computer speakers on my HeadPhone jack to I get the full sound (bass and trebble) as the rear speaker out jack cuts out the bass and the internal speaker takes care of that. I never had any issues with this setup but I never turned the headphone volume up past 3. I think if you were to have the system volume at max and had the speakers volume turned up high then you might just fry them as he says. Thanks Egan.

How to flash a Voodoo3 to work on a Mac from Accelerate Your Mac: I got this info from Mike of Accelerate Your Mac and thought it would be of use to any of you trying to get a Voodoo3 to work on your 6400. The extensions he mentions for getting OpenGL to work on these cards can be found on his other site www.mac3dfx.com. Also not that it has been mentioned that the Rave driver that is installed with 3dfx's Voodoo2 drivers works with their Voodoo3 drivers. But remember Mikes NOTE that the other Voodoo2 drivers will not work with the Voodoo3. Thanks Mike.

6500 owner issue with Voodoo3 card: Well now that I have mentioned that the card does work and also posted how to make it work I have to post some news that it may still have trouble! Craig writes that he cannot get it to work on his 6500. Please email him if you have any suggestions. Thanks.

Loud power supply got you down?: Rodney has been having a serious issue with his power supply where the fan would spin up and down making an anoyingly loud sound. Trust me I have this smae problem and it sounds like a turbo jet taking off :) Anyway he found that by removing the power supply and using a can of compressed air to blow off the dust fixed it! I just tried myself last night and so far mine is quieter too but not as quiet as his sounds. I didn't have much dust at all so my supply may be just going bad? I will have instructions on doing this as soon as my pictures develop. Thanks Rodney. Click here to read previous info I had on this issue.

Just Updated 8/7/1999

Vimage no longer to sell retail or to distributors?: I have read this on a few web sites and just recieved word from Vimage themselves. It seems that they are no longer going to sell to the general public or to retailers and just do OEM equipment! I have no idea what this means for their line of L2 G3 upgrades as there is no Mac made these days tat requires a L2 G3 to be OEM'ed. I fear the worst and that they may no longer distribute their L2 G3 which leaves Sonnets, Newers, and Power Logix's G3's.

One of my contacts has left Vimage already and I emailed the other to find out what is going on. I hope to have more info soon. Vimage pioneered the L2 G3 industry by distributing Interwares products in the US. Interware was the first company to design a L2 G3 and to this day is the most stable L2 G3 out there as far as I'm concerned.

First user reports on Newers L2 G3: Zach just got Newers 300/200 L2 G3 for his 6400 and has sent me some info over the past few days on its performance. Sounds good so far. Thanks Zach

I'm not sure if the heat sink facing the PCI cards will be a problem or not. I have emailed Newer for more info and a test unit to try. Zach later wrote that its been a week and no issues at all. GOOD!

3DFX releases Voodoo 3 drivers!: While ATI may be having issues 3DFX is taking advantage of it. it didn't take long for them to get the Voodoo3 drivers out. only a few weeks ago did they release the Voodoo2 drivers for the Mac. Click here to get them.

I found this info on Accelerate Your Mac:

and then later saw this:

and yet another update:

This means the Voodoo3 cards from 3DFX work on the 6500 so they probably work on the 6400 as well. Looks like it fits in the case too which could mean my Voodoo2 card will also fit. I had mentioned before that I wasn't sure if it would and installed it in my PCI chassi. The one thing to remember as noted above that the Voodoo3 is a full blown 2D/3D card so it requires its own monitor because it has no pass thru port like the previous Voodoo cards. Since the 6400 has no on board video acceleration and the 6500 only has the old Rage II, I don't think it will hurt many people to move their monitor to the Voodoo3 card for lightning performance. The only problem is for those of you that still use Apples TV/video system which relies on a monitor being plugged into the stock port. You will need 2 monitors in this case or have to swap the cable and reboot to get the best of each world.

On a side note, once ATI gets their act together and get their Rage128 cards out and compatible with the 6400 then their VR cards are a good substitiute for both the onboard TV/video and a Voodoo2 card. Yes the Voodoo3 is faster but I find the Voodoo2 very nice at this time and the Rage128 is on on par or slightly faster then a Voodoo2. Depends on what games your playing :) I may be getting a Voodoo3 to try out for myself though.

Links to Accelerate Your Macs info on 3DFX info: Mike asked me to post some links to his site which has probably the best info on 3DFX and the Mac.


The Voodoo3 seems to be slightly faster then the Rage 128 Orion from ATI and it does work on the 6500 and possibly 6400. Since its so cheap this may be a good substitute for those waiting on ATI. To get Rave to work you'l lneed to download the Voodoo2 drivers from 3DFX and only place the Rave extension in your extensions folder. Also here is a link to a petition he has started to make Apple more aware of how many people would like 3DFX products on their Macs. Specially iMacs!


His main site is xlr8yourmac.com which tracks, as if you can't tell, anything that has to do with speeding up that old Mac, or a new Mac :)

Speeding up the Geo modem?: Henrik sent me this info on changing your init string to get the Geo modem to transfer data faster. I'll ave to try it and see what happens. Thanks Henrik.

Farallon admits their 2.0 driver for the Comm II slot 10/100 ethernet card is incompatible with OS 8.6: I just got this from Carl who recieved an email from Farallon stating that they are aware of the issue and working on a fix. Thanks Carl. Click here to read what the problem is.

Another satisfied 6400/6500 mother board swapper: Howard just swapped his 6400/180 mother board for a 6500/225 mother board from AllMac. He is very pleased with the results. Thanks Howard. Click here to read Tom Legare's review for swapping a 6400 mother board with a 6500.

Brain sends more info on Linux with a G3 accelerated 6400: last time I noted some issues I noted some issues I had with running Linux on my 6400's Brain wrote to help with some and correct others. One was that I said you had to boot all the way to the Mac before switching. This is not true and you can use the BootX extension but in order for your G3 to be recognized you have to make the G3 extension load before the BootX extension. Since BootX was designed to load very early then you need to do my Hack to get Sonnets Crescendo extension to load even earlier. For Vimages just add a space at the front of the name. Thanks for the info Brian.

Sonnet cuts prices on G3 upgrades: Here is a list from Other World of their new Sonnet L2 G3 prices. They're getting cheap! Thanks David.

More info on the Sound issue with Sonnets G3: Egan who is a professional sound recorder sent along some interesting info. Most of it is beyond me as I'm not into digital recording but I hope it helps those of you that are. Thanks Egan. Click here to read a text version of his letters. They are pretty long but pack a lot of info. Click here to read previously noted issues.

I emailed about the Sound quality issue he noted about lowering the system volume actually decreases the quality and not just lowering the volume and here is his reply (also added to the text info)

So anyone wanting the best sound out better turn up the volume and then lower it in all other apps and games or get a set of external speakers and plug them into the front headphone port and use thhe volume knob on the speakers. don't use the back port as it cuts out all low end bass which is passed only to the internal speaker. the headphone jack on the 6400 passes the full range of audio. for a system that was advertised as an audio/video system with certian setups, it sure is a pesty little Mac :)

Issues with Sonnets G3's and Ram Doubler?: Boy it just doesn't stop with Sonnet! I got this info from MacFixIt. The G3's they are refering to are for PCI versions and not L2 G3's but maybe this info will help some of you.

Mac Equipment for sale updated: I have made some more additions to my list. click here to go check it out.

Another BlackFire IDE-SCSI adaptor user: Bill sends word that he got one of BlackFires IDE to SCSI adaptor and it is working fine for him in an external SCSI case. Thanks Bill. Click here to read more on IDE to SCSI adaptors.

ATI Rage 128 compatibility?

8/1/1999 ATI response to Rage128 and 6400 issue: I found this on Accelerate Your Mac. It seems that ATI had it working at one time but did not check again when some last minute changes were made. The good news is that it can work and they just need to update the drivers.

I got this from MacInTouch. I hope its to make the drivers work with ALL systems.

7/30/1999 ATI Rage 128 Orion not compatible with 6400!: I just heard that ATI's new Orion card is not compatible with the 6400/6500 or StarMax systems. This probably means its also not compatible with any Mac designed with the same mother boards. The ATI extension that activates the 3D hardware crashes during boot. With out it, it seems to run ok but with no Acceleration for games. Not sure if the 2D is still accelerated or not. ATI is aware of the issue and working on it.

I sure hope so as it took them a year just to release the cards and their reason was to make sure they were compatible. WHAT HAPPENED?

L2G3 upgrade info for the 6400

My Vimage Info page on Vimage's G3 upgrade for the 6400

My Vimage Compatibility page
My Vimage User Letters page
My Vimage install reviews

My Sonnet Tech Info page on Sonnet's G3 upgrade for the 6400

Hack to make Sonnets G3's more stable
My Sonnet Compatibility page
My Sonnet User Letters page
My Sonnet install review

My Newer Tech Info page on Newer's G3 upgrade for the 6400

My PowerLogix Info page on PowerLogix's G3 upgrade for the 6400

L2/G3 comparison page

amazon.com, books and more 7/2/98

I found a great way to earn some money while getting great deals to you on Macintosh books and software plus they have all kinds of other books, music, and more. Please click on the amazon.com link on the top of this page whenever you feel like purchasing something to help sponsor this site. If you're unsure of what you want and wish to get a list of Mac related items, just type Macintosh in the search field on their home page and you will be presented with many choices to select.

Link to my site that gets rid of AOL's ads! 9/16/98

Jeff did some digging in to the new code that displays the frames on my site with AOL ads and found a link that can be used which will not show those annoying ads. Here is the address. http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/TMK12v/home.html
Thanks Jeff, for sending this info. PS don't let AOL find out :)

Current Problems with my System

System Pause with USB card and OS 8.67/8/1999

I have been having a pause in all apps and the mouse when using Logitecs USB Wheel mouse on an ADS USB card. I haven't traced it down but one other person had a similar issue but with an ADB trackball which means it may not be a USB issue? Click here for more info.

Freeze at shutdown with Farallons COMM II ethernet card and OS 8.67/10/1999

When I first installed the cable modem I got some crashes when I shut down. I traced it to Farallons COMM II ethernet extension version 2.0. With version 1.1 the 6400 shuts down fine. I emailed Farallon and am waiting for a reply.

UPDATE on Farallons 2.0 extension for their 10/100 COMM II ethernet card not compatible with OS 8.6: Paul emailed saying he had the same problem but it may not have been the Farallon extension causing the problem. All I know is that when I reinstall the older 1.1 version the problem goes away. Thanks Paul.

My own request 7/10/1999

This is somewhat off the topic but I was wondering if there is anyone using Quicken to do online billing with their bank? I use Bank of America and the branches out here are not as up-to-date as the California system is so they have no Mac versions of their software used to do online billing. They just switched to Quicken99 from Managing Your Money and they only have PC versions available. I was wondering if Quicken98 for the Mac would work? I expecct that when Quicken 2000 comes out for the Mac then they should distribute both PC and Mac copies for online banking. Anyways if anyone has an answer then please email me. Thanks.

update: It won't work. I just called Bank of America and it seems at the time they were deciding on which software to choose Q98 was not Y2K so out it went. It is Y2K now if you update to revision5 but its too late for BofA. Maybe Q2000 will be chosen?

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