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Just Updated 4/3/2003
Corrections from last update: I made a mistake in my last update and also did not make another posting clear enough. My mistake was in the 6400 SCSI topic. I had mentioned that the 7500 was the first to have dual SCSI buses when in fact it was the 8100 that had it first. Thank to Alec for pointing that one out.
And I need to make my posting about the quad port USB cards a bit more clear. I had mentioned that you should not get a quad port USB card if you ever intend on using it in the 6400/6500. I really meant to say a USB card with multiple buses because some quad port cards also have 4 independent USB bus controllers as well. These are the cards that are having trouble with the 6400/6500. A plain quad port USB card that only has one USB bus controller for all 4 ports should work just fine. Thanks to JJ for showing me that one.
Evergreen is having a sale!: Bill just let me know that Evergreen is having a sale on their Firewire/USB combo cards. Thanks Bill. I noticed that a lot of their products are on sale at the moment but the card Bill mentioned is being discontinued. It appears to make way for the newer Firewire/USB 2 combo card. Click here for more info on their combo card.
Overclocked 5500 from 225Mhz to 300Mhz!: Patrick sends word that he was able to clock his 5500 from a stock 225Mhz to a whopping 300Mhz! That's the largest MHz jump I have heard of for the 603e CPU. Thanks for the info Patrick!
I wonder if the 6500 will have as much overhead as his 5500 has? I know the 6400 starts locking up at only 40Mhz over the stock CPU speed for many clockers. Also, I added a new chart, on my clocking page, for 5500/6500 owners that shows which resistors need to be changed to clock these systems. The original chart was for 5400/6360/6400 Macs only.
Issues with USB in OS 9.2.2?: I have heard from several people that are having issues with USB once they update their 6400 to OS 9.2.2 using OS9 Helper. I asked each to make sure they had the USB drivers installed and which version is installed. I haven't heard back yet but I did run across this very topic on MacInTouch today. Funny how the same topics seem to start on all the Mac help sites at close to the same time :) Anyway, it looks like there is an issue with USB PCI card support in the USB drivers from OS 9.2.2? Here is some info I found on MacInTouch's web site.
Both fixes require the download and install of Apples USB Adaptor Card Support drivers version 1.4.1 available here. What's interesting is that the page says that these drivers are not for Macs with built in USB ports as those computers already include support for the built-in ports as well as USB PCI cards. I don't know why the OS 9.2.2 drivers wouldn't work with USB PCI cards if it supports both built-in and PCI cards, but that seems to be the case? Maybe not all of the needed drivers get installed if there are no built-in ports to begin with? Below are the drivers I have in my OS 9.2.2 install on my Dual 800 QuickSilver. Notice I only have version 1.5.6 of the main USB drivers but version 1.5.9 is listed in the letters above? Either that's a typo or somewhere people are getting newer drivers then what comes with OS 9.2.2?
If anyone has USB PCI cards working in OS 9.2.2, please email me your USB driver version numbers. Thanks!
Master/Slave IDE drives on a 6400, Possible?: We all know for the longest time that its not possible for the 6400/6500 family of Macs to run master/slave drive setups on our stock IDE bus. But Terry writes that he is able to run master/slave HD's on his UMAX C600 under OSX! These systems are very similar to the 6400 but actually have a processor upgrade slot which lets them install G3 upgrades the proper way and not through the L2 cache slot. At one time I remember reading that OSX supplies its own IDE bus drivers and may not use the bus controller but rather does it in software? I don't know if that is true or possible but if so then maybe there is a way to get our 6400's to run master/slave drives? Anyone care to speculate on this :)
More information on the video out ports that some 6500's come with: There is a nice topic going on in my forums about the NTSC Video out capability of some 6500's. The question that sparked this was how to get the video out ports to work? I pointed the person to this page on my site that has some info on the video out card. I asked him to try setting his resolution to 640x480 @60Hz as was mentioned on that page. I haven't heard back from him yet if this worked but another user, Christopher, found a number of links with lots of info on this subject. Thanks Christopher! Here are some of his postings.
So lets see if I can work this all out to make it easy to picture. First let me say that none of these will work without a monitor being attached to the stock monitor port. If the stock monitor port is not being used then the Mac disables all these cards functions!
NTSC Video Out card has an S-Video and a Composite out port. It connects to the little slot just behind the PRAM battery and has a ribbon cable that goes to the actual card that sits just below the sound output jack. The resolution must be set to 640x480 @60Hz to work. Here is a link to Apples web site with more info on this card. Click here to see a picture of this card.
Video Out card for mirrored video on another monitor. It has a Mac DB15 monitor port on it. It connects to the little slot just behind the PRAM battery and has a ribbon cable that goes to the actual card that sits just below the sound output jack. It will display exactly what is displayed from the stock port. The resolution can be anything that the internal video controller can handle and both monitors will display the same thing. To display this video on a TV or projector you need the Apple Presentation System to convert the Mac DB15 port to an S-Video or composite out cable. Or any other device that does the same thing. Click here to see a picture of this card. Sorry its just an artists rendition :(
Apple Presentation System. I have no info on this other then its needed to view S-Video or Composite video from the Video Out card. I suppose this would also work on the standard monitor out port as well? Both the standard monitor out and the Video Out card use the same Mac DB15 monitor port.
Video In card for watching video on your Mac. It has an S-Video and Composite in port as well as left and right audio in ports. This card sits just to the right of the serial ports and ADB port. It plugs into the slot at the top of the mother board next to the RAM slots. This is used for video capture to your Mac. It came in 4 version, Rev A-D. Most say you need Rev C or D to work on the 6400/6500 and A and B were for earlier Performas. This card works in conjunction with the TV tuner card or the Avid card. The reason Rev C and D are needed for the 6400/6500 is because some of these Macs shipped with the Avid card as well and the two cards join by a ribbon cable. The Rev C and D cards have the larger ribbon slot needed for the Avid card that shipped with these while the Rev A and B cards have a smaller slot so the ribbon cable won't fit. This works with NTSC, PAL, and SECAM. It can be changed via software to either format.
Avid card is for video out using hardware MPEG1 decoding. It connects to the Video In card to do MPEG1 hardware encoding for video capture as well. I think there are Rev A-D versions of this card to pair up with the same Rev of the Video In card?
TV Tuner card sits in the upper compartment in the back of the case. It has one connector for a COAX cable antenna connection and is for viewing TV on your Mac. It works in conjunction with the Video In card. You need both to watch TV. This comes in NTSC only.
TV/FM card sits in the upper compartment in the back of the case. It has one connector for a COAX cable antenna connection and is for viewing TV on your Mac. It also has a built in FM receiver to listen to FM radio. It works in conjunction with the Video In card. You need both to watch TV. This comes in NTSC only. Here is a link to Apples web site with tech specs on this card.
TV / FM driver version 1.5 posted for download. Scott was nice enough to send me the drivers for the TV / FM system in case anyone needs them. Thanks Scott!
Here is a link to Apples web site with more info on some of these cards. Even though Apples site doesn't list 6400/6500 compatibility with many of these cards, they do work as people have tried them already.
Well that about does it. If anyone has more info for me to add or any corrections, please feel free to let me know!
My 6400 Take Apart Manual has been updated: With this new info posted above and some pictures from Alec, I was able to make a small posting on the install/removal of the Video Out cards. Thanks Alec. I also update the home page of the manual with some pictures to help illustrate the location of some of these items better.
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I use a Performa 6400/Vimage G3/320 OS 9.2.2, two B&W G4/500's OS 10.2.2 Server, iBook Dual USB OS 9.2.2 / OSX 10.2.4, PM 6100 G3/240 OS 9.1, Dual G4 800 OS 9.2.2/OSX 10.2.4, and a PowerBook DUO 270c OS 7.5.5. If I encounter any problems, I will post them for all to read and respond to. Likewise, if you are having any problems and would like help just email me and if I can answer it I will, or I will post it here for others to read and respond to.
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